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Hi, I wanted to know what was the difference between +7 and 7s when it came to block frames ! Thanks a lot
7s means the oppnent i put in crouch state.
Is FFF + 3 -6 or +6 on block? Because all it says is 6, no sign.
If there is no sign, it means +
Ah ok, thank you!
123 and 124 is 0 onblock instead +3.
Not updated with season 2 data yet?
Look again
Hi,
Another potentially tricky one…
Where the Hunting Hawk move is, there is a move “u/f+3, 4 (when second hit inputted)”. I guess this means hitting 4 too late to do the u/f+3, 4 move with 2 hits but can you tell me how is this different from the regular move “u/f+3”? I don’t see any difference in the animation? What does 4 (when second hit inputted) mean and do?
The data is mostly the same for both but it seems worse for frames on block, -13~-12 instead of -6~-5. The start up frames 28~29 are also missing.
Am I misunderstanding something?
Thanks!
Hi,
There are 2 instances of f+3, the Start up frame for the first is 13~ and the other is 18~19 4~. The first is in the middle of the normal stance section and is L Flam Feint but the second occurs at the end of the RFF section / start of the LFS section. Is there stance notation missing, is it also meant from normal stance, why is the frame date different?
Similar thing on f, n+4 23~ for R Flam Feint then occurs again between the LFS and RFS sections but shows ~1.
Also could you expand on 18~19 4~? What is the 4~ at the end for?
Thanks!
Good questions. There is a multiple f+3 since the second one is a kind of heading for the LFS section describing how you get into it.
Other than that, I don’t really have any good answers. The data was kept from a translation of ina wiki. Maybe someone else knows.
For u/f+4 it says js1~ even though it’s only js9~
This is a nice site and all, but where do I read what all of these notations mean?
For example this page says that Hwoarangs d+3,4 is +8~+12 on block. So what is it? +8 or +12?
It will usually be the lowest. It has 5 active frames,so if it hits on the last it will be +12
LFS b+4 m(RFF) 28 16~17 -8~-7 +7~+8 hKZD
why does this say 28 damage
its 21
is 28 from 7.0?
Damages has not been updated for all chars since tag.
What about his throws though?
Sorry, we don’t have throw data
Skyrocket: 16(19~)
Is it 16 or 19?
I think it means the move itself is 16 frames, but you will also have to use at least 3 frames for the input (f,N,d/f). So a move will have to be at least -19 for you to punish with skyrocket
Oh. Thanks.
Holy shit, skyrocket is that slow? That’s the problem with Hwo. Not only are a lot of moves hard to use (input wise) like JFSR and f,n,df+3+4 but they’re also incredibly slow.
Regarding RFS d4, I think it’s way unsafer compared to -15. I’ve seen someone punish it with a delayed hopkick.
Why hwo doesnt have anymore his high crush low kicks:lfs db3 and rfs db4!?
They’re gone.. no idea why. I tried many many times to do them when I played the game haha
Is RFS 2,3 – 2,4- 2,B4 – 2,4,3- and 2,4F still in Hwoarang’s move list. also, in RFS I notice that he still has the 8 frame F4 but in LFS the 8 frame F3 has been replaced by something else. Am I looking at this correct?
LFS f+3 has been replaced by baek’s old move FLA f+3. It really sucks because LFS f+3 used to be essential in keeping faster moves and ss in check =(
All other RFS 2 jab strings are still in the game of course, with similar properties
thank you for clearing that up, i hate that they took that move.
Is RFS 2,3 2,4 2,B4 2,4,3 and 2,4F still in Hwoarang’s move list. also, in RFS I notice that he still has the 8 frame F4 but in LFS the 8 frame F3 has been replaced by something else. Am I looking at this correct?